CITY MOVES PEOPLE ALONG

2007.07.29 - 10:45 PM

The attitude taken by the City of Victoria has been to move people along rather than address the problems of homelessness. To that end Mayor Alan Lowe, as head of the city police, has hired 12 new police officers to patrol the downtown core and enforce bylaws. How much money has this cost? Could that amount be put to better use providing shelter? Moving people along makes little sense when there are few places to go.

If you have information regarding the tent city in Victoria October 2005 or anything related to the anti-camping bylaw which prohibit people from sleeping in public places please contact Lawyers Catherine Boies Parker and Irene Faulker at: (250)380-2788 E-mail: ifaulkner@ufpblaw.ca

For more details Check out: Tent_City_Lawsuite
http://homelessnation.org/en/user/2575



These signs allow the police to take the initiative to remove offenders without a request from the property owner which would normally be required.

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Comments

alexandra on 2007.07.31

thanks for the good info richard

skeletonwoman on 2007.07.31

I've also heard a report of police being violent with homeless people - women as well. And victims are afraid to take any action. Anyone know what the best course of action in such a situation?

bcguy20072007 on 2007.08.10

just for your information, unless u have somemental health issues being homeless is where you choose to be. I chose to be on the streets then I said to myself this is not where I want to be. Went out and cleaned up, looked presentable, got a roomate then got a place and now working in government with agencies in partnerships. So do not blame homelessness on others. Get it together folks I can't believe what I am seeing here. There are so many jobs out there, places where you can clean up..... make a choice.... responsibility or the streets what will it be... by the way i got a job in government in victoria

Hatrackman on 2007.08.11

do not believe in choice, not even a little- it is the lie that makes all suffering

rose on 2007.08.21

I just had the privilage of witnessing first hand the impat of how scare the business community has become after seeing and hearing a poor everyday employee had to come out and tell two homeless brothers that they could no longer sit near the srore's front because they have just been granted the right to tell them they could not panhandle on their property and to move along. One of the brothers has told me that he has been ticketed five times for having his backpack sitting on the ground while he is using it to sit on because he can no longer sit directly on the ground. They have also been told by the same store employess that all homeless and panhamdlers are forbidden from being near or front of any businesses because they are all under the same by-law?

shebibd on 2007.08.22

the earth is our home. What we have are laws that are tryanical and illegimate.ownership is bullshit
the truth is the law. the crap coming from the court house is just a dumb mind game that has sucked the innocent in. deny the court and their lackey judgements for they deny the truth.
noone inside the court system actually believe in what they are doing unless they are naive .
it's just they are being paid to keep quite. don't be a dupe .I have challenged the judges to an open debate on the real issue of justice. the harmony of divine balance, and they do not have the guts to take me up on it.Or they are aware it's just a fucked illusion and they won't give up their pay.
even on line . Who will defend the present victoria court house ? Come on. Everyone except the deceived are aware.
david shebib 208 5180 garbage guru

skeletonwoman on 2007.08.22

Is freezing to death in the streets an illusion too?

bcguy20072007 on 2007.08.22

do you know what choice means though

cyndeebee on 2007.08.24

Kudos to you, and I mean that sincerely, for making such big changes in your life. I have to strongly disagree, though, with your "blanket" statement. Seems to me you're looking at two - and only two - possible reasons for homelessness. The first, of course, is mental illness. And the second - choice???
Life is way too complicated to be neatly bound up in simple formulas and/or tidy answers. My thinking is that there are as many reasons for homelessness as there are homeless people. We dishonor our fellow human beings when we no longer see them as individuals, with individual histories, experiences, goals, etc.
But now that you're doing well, maybe you could consider paying it forward? Have you ever considered volunteering in a shelter, soup kitchen, or for Street Outreach?

Hatrackman on 2007.08.26

'choice' pretends that there is a magical moment for life forms, right in between the past and the present, where we step out of the possible and ignore the logic that states that all motion and thought are come to by experience that has no beginning. 'Choice' ignores truth... that you are not the maker of your thoughts- that you are a conduit of a phenomenon called life that observes and undulates in a singular and ever-moving universe.

I know very much what choice is. It is the vomit of pride- thinking that original thought is possible.

cyndeebee on 2007.08.26

Great way of putting things in perspective.
The word "choice" is misused, overused, abused.
Saying that people have made a "choice" is a way for the commenter to let themselves off the hook.
"Choice ignores truth" - absolutely!
Choice is often our way of making the downtrodden feel like they created their fate - and we, therefore, have no obligation whatsoever, to take care of each other.
I don't much like "choice."

metamorphosis on 2007.08.26

Hatrackman: We don't make choices.

I think we do get to choose how we respond to what comes up. I am not original in this thought, nor in my so-called "choice" of response.

cyndeebee: Saying that people have made a "choice" is a way for the commenter to let themselves off the hook.

There are things that I may do that might be considered harmful towards myself and that I do out of habit. I am not "choosing" to do these things, if I really had a choice I wouldn't do them. And, I am not sure that I really "chose" to start the habit in the first place -- it was probably something foisted upon me without my consent.

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